Nov 2, 2021 • 1HR 29M

Out of the Depths

Jonah Goldberg
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In “The Remnant," Jonah Goldberg, the founder and editor-in-chief of The Dispatch, syndicated columnist, best-selling author, and AEI/NRI Fellow enlists a “Cannonball Run”-style cast of stars, has-beens, and never-weres to address the most pressing issues of the day and of all-time. Is Western Civilization doomed? Is nationalism the wave of the future? Is the Pope Catholic? Will they ever find a new place to put cheese on a pizza? Is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Who is hotter: Ginger or Mary-Ann? Was Plato really endorsing the Republic as the ideal state? Mixing history, pop culture, rank-punditry, political philosophy, and, at times, shameless book-plugging, Goldberg and guests will have the kinds of conversations we wish they had on cable-TV shout shows. And the nudity will (almost) always be tasteful.
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Ross Douthat is back on The Remnant to discuss his new book, The Deep Places, a memoir of his six-year struggle with chronic illness. With numerous references to The Exorcist, Jonah and Ross take a deep dive into his ordeal, and even manage to mix in a generous amount of rank punditry on political tribalism and the conservative movement in the COVID era. Did Ross’ sickness cause him to reconsider his views on health care policy? How did he cope while enduring a period of prolonged suffering and isolation? And how has Donald Trump changed Republican politics?

Show Notes:

- Ross’ new book, The Deep Places

- Ross’ page at National Review

- Ross’ page at the New York Times

- Ross is profiled in The Dispatch

- Ross: “How I became a sick person”

- The Invisible Kingdom, by Meghan O’Rourke

- The Remnant with Paul Bloom

- Mom Genes, by Abigail Tucker

- John Tooby on coalitional instincts

- R.R. Reno: “Say ‘No’ to Death’s Dominion”

- Jonah: “The Treason of Epidemiologists” 

- The Capitol rioters running for office